tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12820616.post6920796125539856640..comments2009-04-26T23:56:37.653-04:00nitsudimahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08467972581414394989noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12820616.post-8578773420342542392009-04-24T13:13:00.000-04:002009-04-24T13:13:00.000-04:00Great points Steph and right on Dustin. A common denominator for almost all of that is Geoffrey Miller. He ran Gitmo in the early days before going to run the Iraqi prisons. He is most likely the link between Gitmo and Abu Ghraib.<br /><br />Secondly, there are some great articles on the web (many of which have been around for quite some time) regarding a legal analysis of the many criminal and civil trials regarding the use of waterboarding. (<A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>). The people who are arguing that waterboarding is not torture completely flies in the face of the extensive legal history on the subject.<br /><br />The NYTimes had a very interesting op-ed that contradicts General Hayden's claims in the WSJ (<A HREF="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123993446103128041.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>) (as also repeated by Cheney) about how we caught some cell members like KSM. <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/opinion/23soufan.html?_r=2&em" REL="nofollow">here</A> <br /><br />The Bush Admin house of cards is finally crumbling before our very eyes thanks to the light of day finally being shined on it. I feel like we are regaining our soul as a nation.paulohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06105372811090706854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12820616.post-76738368771095567312009-04-24T10:25:00.000-04:002009-04-24T10:25:00.000-04:00Rachel Maddow pointed out an interesting fact Wednesday night - that the program of torture had to have come from the top down. The CIA prisons and the Military prisons are two separate institutions with their own rules and regs, and they don't particularly talk to or interact with one another, especially since some of the prisons are on completely different continents. But the recent evidence shows that both institutions were doing the same types of interrogations and following the same methods. That almost certainly came from above. <br /><br />She had a guest on last night that also drew some timelines out- and it become apparent that the tortures occurred at some key times that correspond to the hunt for WMDs in Iraq. And some of the questions that the interrogators were asking were specifically about connections between Al-Qaeda and Iraq and WMDs. So it's a reasonable speculation that they weren't hunting for the other terrorist cells or Al-Qaeda operatives (national security interests). They were torturing to find excuses to invade Iraq.<br /><br />I'd highly recommend watching Wednesday night's Rachel Maddow show, if you haven't seen it.Steph Minearthttp://www.commonplacebook.comnoreply@blogger.com